Tim Vickery Talks About South Americans in the Bundesliga

by Double Pivot on October 7, 2009 · 2 comments

First of all, I need to apol­o­gize. I inter­viewed Tim back at the end of August and am just now get­ting this out. I feel I did a dis­ser­vice to the time he was so kind to give me. But, bet­ter late than never, so I have tran­scribed our talk about new South Amer­i­cans in the Bun­desliga. Here it is.

The focus our our talk was to dis­cuss new play­ers from the trans­fer win­dow, although we did dis­cuss some other play­ers as well. I will list the player and then his response.

Geromel at Cologne

He doesn’t feel that he will have much chance of mak­ing a dent in the World Cup squad for Brazil. Like many Brazil­ians ply­ing their trade abroad, he is vir­tu­ally unknown back home. This is espe­cially the case for play­ers that didn’t start off in the Brazil­ian league, and Geromel was devel­oped in Por­tu­gal. With no con­stituency, its almost impos­si­ble to get a call up. That con­stituency usu­ally is made through the fans and the media. Geromel is kind of like Alfonso Alves of Mid­dles­boro, who came out of nowhere and was able to use a bril­liant scor­ing record in Hol­land, includ­ing 7 in one game to force his way onto the side. But even then he and Dunga were roundly crit­i­cized when he was called up. Even if Geromel were to gar­ner the atten­tion of Dunga, it would not go over well with the fans and media.

Lucas Bar­rios at Dortmund

The Argen­tine brought over from Colo Colo of Chile has scored goals every­where. How­ever this has mostly been at smaller clubs. He’s fairly ungainly, which is pos­si­bly why it took him so long to get a chance at a big club like Colo Colo. But once again, he was able to score for them, so it will be inter­est­ing to see if he can tran­si­tion to the Bun­desliga. He’s a front-to-goal goalscorer, who likes to play off the last man. Not the best col­lec­tive player, but he has a record that can’t be dis­counted when it comes to judg­ing how he might do.

I asked about his quick­ness to pull out of a chal­lenge. Tim felt that it’s just an adjust­ment, as it is with so many South Amer­i­cans com­ing over to Europe, where they face defend­ers built like wardrobes.

Juan Arango of Gladbach

He’s a player Tim has always admired the Venezue­lan with the big boom­ing left foot. He’s been fol­low­ing him for over a decade, but he has been a lit­tle bit dis­ap­point­ing over the past two to three years. You expect a player to be bet­ter at 27 than 24, which hasn’t hap­pened. How­ever, he feels that he’s the type of player that tends to excel in Ger­many, where South Amer­i­can play­mak­ers have always fared well because the mid­field isn’t as squeezed as in Eng­land. but it’s also a nat­ural pro­gres­sion from Germany’s recent tran­si­tion from a three to four man back­line, where the defenses are still play­ing too deep, to com­pen­sate for the lack of a sweeper.

Rafinha of Schalke

Tim has always rated the full­back very highly. He wrote about him as early as 2005 for the World Soc­cer Mag­a­zine. He has ter­rific lung power with qual­ity end prod­uct. He’s an excel­lent attack­ing full­back. Being that he is behind Maicon and Daniel Alves, it could be a long time before he gets a chance with the World Cup squad. “Rafinha” sounds like “Hafinya” when pro­nounced by a Por­tuguese speaker.

Franco Zuculini of Hoffenheim

Excel­lent prospect! He’s a Diego Simione type fig­ure as an all-around cen­tral mid­fielder: gets his foot in, wins the tack­lel, is phys­i­cally dynamic, can get into the oppos­ing box and can score goals too. He’s a fiery char­ac­ter and a cen­tral mid­fielder of whom Argentina have a lot of hope for in the future at the senior level.

Maico­suel of Hoffenheim

He is a prospect who bounced around from club to club before explod­ing at Botafogo. He’s phys­i­cally frail and Tim is inter­ested to see how he adjusts to Ger­many. Even his good run at Botafogo was dur­ing the State Cham­pi­onships where he may have been flat­tered by the weak qual­ity in the oppo­si­tion. This run at the start of this year was the first time since he emerged three years ago that he actu­ally deliv­ered on his promise. While he has a lot of pace run­ning with the ball, it’s a bit of a gam­ble by Hof­fen­heim as the player has never shown abil­ity week-to-week against qual­ity opposition.

Marcelo Moreno Mar­tins or Werder Bremen

He’s Boli­vian, but his father was a Brazil­ian player. He is known in Bolivia as Marcelo Mar­tins. But when he came to Brazil to play he was called Marcelo Moreno (which is his first last name) due to the dif­fer­ences in cul­ture between the Por­tuguese and Span­ish speak­ing cul­tures. He scored a lot of goals for Cruzeiro. There’s a lit­tle bit of Gabriel Batis­tuta in him with­out the pace (although he wanted that com­par­i­son not to be overblown). He was squeezed out at Shak­tar but he can play up top and can link the play. If he doesn’t get much time at Werder due to the third return of Clau­dio Pizarro, it could spell doom for his career as a player needs to be play­ing at this age.

Mineiro of Schalke

He’s the guy that scored the goal for Sao Paulo that beat Liv­er­pool in 2005. He is hon­est as the day is long and will run all day. He makes up for a lack of tech­ni­cal abil­ity with his hon­esty and appli­ca­tion. Tim always thought he was a dis­as­ter pick-up for Sco­lari at Chelsea, as this free pickup more than any­one rein­forced the idea a Por­tuguese clique at Stam­ford Bridge. But he could see why he would be wanted. He is a good bloke to have around and per­haps that was what Mag­ath was look­ing for by pick­ing him up cheap: a good influ­ence in the dress­ing room.

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1 MuuH October 8, 2009 at 7:19 am

Thanks for the nice insights on some of the South Americans in the BL. Unfortunatelly not all of them have gotten a lot of playtime yet, especially the Hoffenheim Pappenheimer, so hard to tell if they will make it or not as of yet.

Any additional info on Renato Augusto maybe? He doesn´t get a lot of coverage in German media which I keep wondering about and now he is missing in this little overview as well =)

Also any thoughts on Obafemi Martins? Rumors will have it that he has chances to replace Grafite in the Wolfsburg starting line up due to Grafites ongoing Ladehemmung and strained relations with Armin Veh.

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2 yousef anani May 15, 2010 at 1:36 pm

It would have been nice had you asked me before linking to my picture of Tim

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