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		<title>Hamburg Captain van der Vaart transfers to Real Madrid</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s finally official, Rafael van der Vaart the Netherlands midfielder and Hamburg’s captain is on his way to Real Madrid pending the results of a medical. The Bundesliga’s own version of the Ronaldo affair has come an end. Although the clubs themselves have not released the details regarding the transfer fee, reports in the German [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.bundesligatalk.com/hamburg-captain-van-der-vaart-transfers-to-real-madrid/49/rafael-van-der-vaart/" rel="attachment wp-att-50" title="Rafael van der Vaart"><img src="http://cdn.bundesligatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/a_vandervaart_180x2502.jpg" alt="Rafael van der Vaart" align="right" hspace="15" vspace="15" title="Hamburg Captain van der Vaart transfers to Real Madrid" /></a>It’s finally official, Rafael van der Vaart the Netherlands midfielder and Hamburg’s captain is on his way to Real Madrid pending the results of a medical.  The Bundesliga’s own version of the Ronaldo affair has come an end.  Although the clubs themselves have not released the details regarding the transfer fee, reports in the German media estimate it at an initial 13 million Euros.  This fee would increase to 15 million depending on how successful the Spanish champions are over the next several seasons.</p>
<p>Hamburg’s website has a <a href="http://www3.hsv.de/index.php?id=24046" title="Rafael van der Vaart Interview in German" target="_blank">farewell interview</a> available.  Unfortunately it’s only in German.  Just in case the club does not provide an English version of its own the interview has been (quickly) translated* below:</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Hsv.de</strong>: Rafael, last night Hamburg and Real Madrid agreed to your transfer.  You will sign a five-year contract with the Spanish record champions.  How are you feeling right now and how happy are you that things have finally cleared up?</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Van der Vaart</strong>: I’m doing well.  The transfer was agreed upon late in the night.  It took a long time and was uncertain for quite a while, but now everything’s cleared up.  I’m happy about that, but also a bit sad.  It was a nice time. As I come back here, see everything once more and have to say my goodbyes, well, that’s a strange feeling.</p>
<p class="csc-textpic-text"><strong>Hsv.de</strong>: You always stressed that your dream was to play for a club like Real Madrid.  What kind of expectations do you have of Spain?</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Van der Vaart</strong>: I hope that everything works out like it did with the transfer to Hamburg.  You have to realize that it’s a completely different team.  It’s one of the biggest clubs in the world and the fulfillment of a dream of mine.  I would like to play many games and be important to the team in Madrid.  That naturally depends on both my own performance and the success of the club.  I’m looking forward to it.</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Hsv.de</strong>: You were quite stressed the past few days.  Has that now changed?</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Van der Vaart</strong>: I’m still stressed.  So many new things are hitting me.  I’m flying to Madrid this same day, tomorrow is the medical and official unveiling.  These are all nice things, but naturally I’m anxious.</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Hsv.de</strong>: Over the weekend at the Emirates Cup you were able to observe your new teammates up close.  Had you already had contact with them, specifically with your Dutch colleagues and have they already begun clowning around with you in London?</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Van der Vaart</strong>: Naturally I spoke often about [transferring] with Wesley Sneijder, for example, but it’s something else when you meet up in the stadium.  They already had some fun:  come over here or go into our dressing room.  But I was still a Hamburg player and so behaved like one.  I knew that the clubs were in negotiations.</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Hsv.de</strong>: Bernd Hoffman proved himself to be an uncomprimising negotiator.  How did you experience the back and forth over the last several days?</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Van der Vaart</strong>: It was exciting.  It was my absolute dream and a big career goal of mine to go to Real.  Hoffman, naturally and like we all know, negotiated uncompromisingly.  But Hamburg also earned its money.</p>
<p><strong>Hsv.de</strong>: You weren’t in the starting lineup at the Emirates Cup.  Many fans were angered by this decision.  Can you explain this?</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Van der Vaart</strong>: It was a joint decision with the trainer [Martin Jol].  I had so much going through my mind.  In that condition you aren’t able to help the team.  Naturally people will ask, “why does he want to go, why to Real?”  But anyone looking in his heart [knows] it’s a dream to play for a club like that.</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Hsv.de</strong>: You can look back on three wonderful and successful years at HSV.  What are you going to take from this time?</p>
<p class="csc-textpic-text"><strong>Van der Vaart</strong>: It was, without question, a super time.  It was the best decision of my footballing career to come to Hamburg.  I experienced three wonderful years, received a lot of love, enjoyed many beautiful moments.  There were highs and lows, but the fans were always there, that was the best. A single look into the stadium and you know that.</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Hsv.de</strong>: Your wife felt quite comfortable in Hamburg as well.  In addition, your son was born here.  Are they both going with you to Madrid?</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Van der Vaart</strong>:  They both are coming along tonight.  Sylvie will come back in a few days, because she has to return to work.  But they’re both moving to Madrid in order to support me.</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Hsv.de</strong>: Now it’s time to say farewell.   Are you leaving with mixed feelings and is there anything else that you’d like to say to the fans?</p>
<p class="bodytext"><strong>Van der Vaart</strong>: It pains me to move away as well.  Especially when I think of the fans.  They always supported me even during the bad times, especially during the Valencia affair.  I had goosebumps every time I played here.  When you leave of course it’s easy to say, “Hamburg will always stay in my heart,” but it’s honestly so and will remain that way.  I think Hamburg and I will meet again, maybe as a trainer or as a player, but in any case as a fan.  I can only say thanks for everything!</p>
<p><strong>Hsv.de</strong>: We would also like to thank you and wish you and your family good luck in your travels.</p>
<p>* — I replaced HSV with Hamburg throughout and made some other minor edits.</p>
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		<title>The New Gaffer: Introducing Jol at Hamburg</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fred Rutten isn’t the only new Dutch manager in the Bundesliga, as ex-Tottenham Martin Jol took over the reigns of Hamburg earlier this month. It’s been nearly 30 years since Jol’s last appearance in Germany. He made 9 appearances for Bayern Munich as a midfielder in 1978/79 before returning to the Netherlands the next season. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.bundesligatalk.com/the-new-gaffer-introducing-jol-at-hamburg/40/martin-jol/" rel="attachment wp-att-41" title="Martin Jol"><img src="http://cdn.bundesligatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hsv.jpg" alt="Martin Jol" align="right" height="339" hspace="15" vspace="15" width="300" title="The New Gaffer: Introducing Jol at Hamburg" /></a>Fred Rutten isn’t the only new Dutch manager in the Bundesliga, as  ex-Tottenham Martin Jol took over the reigns of Hamburg earlier this month.  It’s been nearly 30 years since Jol’s last appearance in Germany.  He made 9 appearances for Bayern Munich as a midfielder in 1978/79 before returning to the Netherlands the next season.  His managerial journey has now mirrored his playing career, rotating among the northwestern European triangle of the Netherlands, England and Germany.  This time around he hopes to spend more than a year in the Bundesliga.</p>
<p>Jol will be Hamburg’s 26th gaffer in the past 45 years.  While this seems like a lot it’s actually the norm for the league (as next week’s entry on Bruno Labbadia will detail).  The only manager to last longer than 4 years at Hamburg?  Ernst Happel. Yes,  he of Ernst-Happel-Stadion fame (the stadium was named for the two time European Cup winner and not vice versa, in case you were wondering).  While fans would love it if Jol could emulate Happel’s European triumphs, they’d be satisfied with replicating his domestic success.  Coincidentally both Happel and Jol began their managerial careers at ADO Den Haag.  Anyway, it’s been 25 years since he Happel brought home the team’s last championship.   Since then they’ve been a steady, if not spectacular, club:</p>
<p><font color="#000000"> </font><a href="http://www.bundesligatalk.com/the-new-gaffer-introducing-jol-at-hamburg/40/hamburg-position/" rel="attachment wp-att-46" title="Hamburg Position"><img src="http://cdn.bundesligatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hsv-tabellenpositionen.jpg" alt="Hamburg Position" align="middle" height="200" hspace="15" vspace="15" width="480" title="The New Gaffer: Introducing Jol at Hamburg" /></a></p>
<p>They own the unique distinction of being the only remaining original Bundesliga side never to have been relegated.  To continue staying afloat in the Bundesliga and hopefully challenge for silverware Hamburg must first and foremost continue developing their Dutch pipeline.</p>
<p>Currently Hamburg employ four Dutch players in their first team: Joris Mathijsen, Nigel de Jong, Romeo Castelen, and captain Rafael van der Vaart.  Chelsea-flop Khalid Boulahrouz is also a recent member of this group.  Together they comprise the second-largest national contingent in the squad and arguably its most talented.  Hamburg has developed in somewhat of a Dutch Portugal.  Portugal, for obvious reasons, is the destination of choice for young Brazilian talent making their initial move to Europe.  Those who display enough promise are then snapped up by larger clubs.  A crude analogy, to be sure, but it effectively describes the situation.  Like the Bundesliga at large, Hamburg in particular has evolved into a showroom for foreign talent before it moves on to more lucrative English or Mediterranean shores.</p>
<p>The most obvious example of this will soon be Rafael van der Vaart, who has made his feelings quite clear about leaving Hamburg over the past year.  For a time the rumor was that he’d end up at the Mestalla with Valencia.  Now the bids have centered around the Spanish capital, either as part of Atletico’s summer signing spree or as Real’s ersatz Ronaldo.  Although his contract runs through the 2009–2010 season it is clear that he is on his way out and almost certainly to the land of his mother’s birth.  Hamburg would be well-advised to sell soon rather than risk losing a hefty (approximately 15 million Euro) transfer fee thanks to the <a href="http://eur-lex.europa.eu/smartapi/cgi/sga_doc?smartapi!celexplus!prod!CELEXnumdoc&amp;lg=en&amp;numdoc=61993J0415" title="Bosman Ruling Text" target="_blank">Bosman ruling</a>.</p>
<p>The best way to spend the van der Vaart money would be exactly how the club has in the past, on young players.  While no one has or will likely ever confuse Hamburg for Arsenal, the club have made the decision to pursue mostly young professionals (three of the four Dutch players above are 25 or younger, for instance).  It seems unlikely that Jol will alter this policy, although were he to try he’d find himself dealing with a much stingier board than Tottenham’s (and he won’t have a repeat of his run-in with Spurs’ director of football Damien Comolli).</p>
<p>Is Jol the man to have Hamburg fans partying like it’s 1983? Is there a limit to how many Dutch players German fans can stomach in the squad?  Is it only a matter of time before Hamburg, taking their cue from North London, replace Jol with Sevilla’s current coach, Manolo Jimenez?</p>
<p><strong>Next Week</strong>: Bruno Labbadia at Bayer Leverkusen</p>
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		<title>The New Gaffer: Introducing Rutten at Schalke 04</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week we make the short trip west on the A40 from Dortmund past Bochum to Gelsenkirchen, home to Schalke 04 and their new coach, Fred Rutten. Much like his new Ruhr rival, Jürgen Klopp, Rutten has been a one club man for almost his entire 30-year playing and coaching career, all with FC Twente [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.bundesligatalk.com/the-new-gaffer-introducing-rutten-at-schalke-04/31/fred-rutten/" rel="attachment wp-att-33" title="Fred Rutten"><img src="http://cdn.bundesligatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/rutten.jpg" alt="Fred Rutten" align="right" hspace="15" vspace="15" title="The New Gaffer: Introducing Rutten at Schalke 04" /></a>This week we make the short trip west on the A40 from Dortmund past Bochum to Gelsenkirchen, home to Schalke 04 and their new coach, Fred Rutten. Much like his new Ruhr rival, Jürgen Klopp, Rutten has been a one club man for almost his entire 30-year playing and coaching career, all with FC Twente (five years at PSV notwithstanding).  His first exposure to German football will be as part of the Revierderby, arguably the country’s best rivalry.</p>
<p>In the Bundesliga era (since 1963) the tie has been finely balanced. With 26 wins Dortmund currently lead Schalke by one, with 21 draws between them. Over the past four and a half decades Schalke and Dortmund have tended to alternate periods of success.  Expect a shift in Schalke’s favor this upcoming season, although not as a direct result of Rutten’s appointment.   The 2003/2004 season saw the two teams decisively diverge and that should continue on into the 2008/09 season. Dortmund’s position has, to put it diplomatically, nosedived. Schalke, in the meantime, have bounced between 2nd and 4th over those same four years:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bundesligatalk.com/the-new-gaffer-introducing-rutten-at-schalke-04/31/the-revierderby/" rel="attachment wp-att-34" title="The Revierderby"><img src="http://cdn.bundesligatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/800px-revierderby.jpg" alt="The Revierderby" align="middle" height="256" hspace="15" vspace="15" width="499" title="The New Gaffer: Introducing Rutten at Schalke 04" /></a></p>
<p>To continue this run of form, the club’s best since the halcyon days of 1933–1945 (six championships under the Nazis), Schalke must contend with personnel issues.  Trite but true.  Three in particular stand out: the injury to Manuel Neuer, and the integration of Orlando Engelaar and Jefferson Farfan into the lineup.</p>
<p>Manuel Neuer —  Out until Mid-September with a broken foot suffered in a preseason friendly against SpVgg Erkenschwick. Neuer stands, alongside Rene Adler and Michael Rensing, as the likeliest candidate to take over long-term goalkeeping duties for Germany after Lehmann’s international retirement. His immense potential is already being realized, having been voted goalkeeper of year in 2007 in a <em>kicker</em> poll. His best performance was undoubtedly his <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb_hNhcRDzY" target="_blank" title="Manuel Neuer vs. Porto">one man show against Porto</a> in the Champions League. Mathias Schober is the natural replacement, having been Hansa Rostock’s first choice keeper the six years (2001/02 — 2006/07) prior to arriving at the Veltins-Arena. No one will confuse Schober for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nztu1kA9ong" title="Lev Yashin Highlights">Lev Yashin</a> or <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=563mhgsxBjc" title="Sergio Goycochea at Italia '90">Sergio Goycochea</a> when it comes time to repeat Neuer’s penalty heroics. Having Neuer back fit and healthy is like a new signing.</p>
<p>Orlando Engelaar — He was hugely impressive for the Netherlands over the summer at Euro ’08. His signature was a major,  but understandable, coup given that Rutten was his manager at FC Twente.  A relative late bloomer to fame the 28-year old’s stock has risen considerably since his international debut last year against South Korea.  His preferred position is as a defensive midfielder, although his scoring touch and passing skill are more reminiscent of a deep-lying playmaker than a Dutch Makélélé or Gattuso.</p>
<p>Jefferson Farfan — Continuing the Dutch theme is the Peruvian Jefferson Farfan, brought to Schalke from PSV to replace the oft-injured and ineffective Søren Larsen.  Farfan is looking to continue the good run of form Peruvian strikers have shown in the Bundesliga, like Claudio Pizzaro and Paolo Guerrero.  Over the last four years he scored almost every other game, which bodes well for his new club.</p>
<p>Finally a major concern for Schalke fans must be Rutten’s coaching experience. Although he has spent three decades around football in playing and coaching capacities, his time alone in charge is actually quite meager. He was the sole gaffer of FC Twente on three separate occasions for a total of only five years before switching to Schalke 04.  The rest of this time was spent in various other functions, mostly as an assistant manager.  How prepared is he? PSV did well when he was there (2002–2006,  Champions League semifinalists in 2004/05), but this can be attributed to Guus Hiddink, who has found success at every stop.</p>
<p>Like Jürgen Klopp (the two intimately linked as long as they remain with their Revierderby clubs), Rutten is being given a chance to shine on one of the brightest stages in German football.  His task is comparatively easier, although the expectations may be too high.  Mirko Slomka, the previous manager (ignoring the interim Michael Büskens) was the Bundesliga’s second most successful trainer behind Ottmar Hitzfeld in his two years at Schalke.  Failing to advance in Europe or to end the club’s 50 year championship drought cost Slomka his job.</p>
<p>Will Rutten end up like Slomka as just another victim of Schalke’s neverending quest to replace Huub Stevens? He is the team’s 9th trainer since the end of the 2001/02 season and the end of Stevens’ affiliation with the club.  Does Rutten have the players now in Engelaar and Farfan to finally capture the Bundesliga crown and bring peace of mind to Gelsenkirchen?  Or are Schalke destined to continue being second best?</p>
<p><strong>Next week</strong>: Martin Jol at Hamburg</p>
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