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		<title>Where to Watch Germany World Cup Games in South Florida</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Gaffer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you live in South Florida or if you’ll be here during the World Cup tournament, you can watch all of the Germany World Cup games live at Wowies Sports Grill located in Boca Raton, Florida (except the 7:30am games). Wowies features 31 big screen TVs, HD broadcasts, excellent food, three full-liquor bars and service [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.bundesligatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/germany-world-cup-wowies.jpg"></a>If you live in South Florida or if you’ll be here during the World Cup tournament, you can watch all of the Germany World Cup games live at Wowies Sports Grill located in Boca Raton, Florida (except the 7:30am games).</p>
<p>Wowies features 31 big screen TVs, HD broadcasts, excellent food, three full-liquor bars and service from the beautiful Wowies servers and bartenders.</p>
<p>The schedule of first round games featuring Germany that will be shown at Wowies are:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Germany v Ghana</strong>, Wednesday, June 23, 2pm</li>
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<p>And based on how well Germany did in their game against Australia, it looks likely that Germany will advance to the second round (and possibly beyond). Wowies will have all of those games live.</p>
<p>Wowies features a happy hour every day from 12-7pm with half-priced drinks. Plus, you can get a coupon for a free beer by going to our sister site World Cup Buzz at <a href="http://www.worldcupbuzz.com/wowies" target="_blank">http://www.worldcupbuzz.com/wowies</a></p>
<p>Wowies is open 9:30am for all of the World Cup games (except the 7:30am kickoffs). I look forward to seeing you there!</p>
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		<title>Germany v Australia, 2010 World Cup: Open Thread</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Gaffer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This afternoon marks the opening game of the 2010 World Cup for Germany as they face a physically strong Australia side. Before, during or after the match, feel free to share your opinions and observations about the big match here. Starting line-ups are: Germany: Neuer — Lahm, Mertesacker, Friedrich, Badstuber — Khedira, Schweinsteiger — Podolski, [...]]]></description>
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<p>This afternoon marks the opening game of the 2010 World Cup for Germany as they face a physically strong Australia side.</p>
<p>Before, during or after the match, feel free to share your opinions and observations about the big match here.</p>
<p>Starting line-ups are:</p>
<p><strong>Germany:</strong> Neuer — Lahm, Mertesacker, Friedrich, Badstuber — Khedira, Schweinsteiger — Podolski, Ozil, Mueller — Klose</p>
<p><strong>Australia: </strong>Schwarzer — Wilkshire, Moore, Neill, Chipperfield — Grella, Valeri — Emerton, Culina, Garcia — Cahill</p>
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		<title>German Youth Success Reflects Positively On Bundesliga</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Davey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With this weeks 4–0 drubbing of England u21s by the German u21s, Die Mannschaft completed a hat-trick of youth level European Championships (winning the u17, u19, and u21 tournaments). Such success indicates that the future of the Bundesliga is bright, and that while the Serie A begins a period of decline, the Premier League is [...]]]></description>
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<p>With this weeks 4–0 drubbing of England u21s by the German u21s, Die Mannschaft completed a hat-trick of youth level European Championships (winning the u17, u19, and u21 tournaments). Such success indicates that the future of the Bundesliga is bright, and that while the Serie A begins a period of decline, the Premier League is used as a scapegoat for the failures of the English national team, and La Liga devolves into a 2 horse race, the Bundesliga is poised to regain its place amongst the top 3 leagues in Europe.</p>
<p>It is difficult to overlook the fact that in this past Euro Under 21 Championship, held in Sweden,   the German youth outplayed Spain’s young stars, out-‘Italianed’ the Italian team, and obliterated a promising England team. To be sure, the German team did not always appear dominant, as they had to work through difficult periods in the games against Finland, England (during the group stage), and Italy, however these difficult periods provided an excellent opportunity for this next generation of German national team players to gain experience doing what many pundits claim the German team does best: finding a way to win.  In nearly every area of the park the German team showed a level of maturity greater than that of their opponents – a maturity that only comes from playing in first-team matches in a top flight league. A quick look manager Horst Hrubesch’s squad from the Match day 1 squad against Spain shows that every member of the starting XI had racked up ample first team action during the last Bundesliga campaign. Such thorough top-flight first team experience was hard to come by in teams like Italy, Spain, and England– all stemming from the fact that the Bundesliga is a league in which promising youth players are given excellent opportunities to prove themselves.</p>
<p>Of course, this recent domination of youth competitions by Germany would have been impossible without the complete revamp of the German youth structure after the debacles of the 1998 World Cup and 2000 European Championships. The combination of training centers run by the 36 1.Bundesliga and 2.Bundesliga clubs and the DFB organized <em>Stützpunkte</em>, regional training centers, have helped cultivate and develop a sizable amount of young talent within Germany.  While many of the names now breaking through at youth levels for Germany may not have typical German surnames, one cannot doubt their loyalty and desire to wear the famous White-on-black kits, nor their ability to play the German way.</p>
<p>With the core of the current German squad aging, Senior National boss Joachim Loew will undoubtedly be looking to add fresh faces to the senior set up following next summer’s world cup in South Africa. The championship winning squad of this past week is where you’ll find the future of the German squad moving towards Euro 2012 and beyond.</p>
<p>While Rene Adler, Germany’s current number 1 between the posts has both youth and ability, Schalke’s Manuel Neuer is certain to contest for the starting spot. A goalkeeper with Champions League experience, Neuer showed a level of maturity and composure that his counterparts lacked. Nowhere was this disparity in experience and maturity more apparent than in the final against England. While England goalkeeper Scott Loach made several critical errors, and looked uncomfortable all night, Neuer was the model of composure between the posts. Admittedly, Loach was the backup goalkeeper for the England squad, but the mere fact that starting keeper Joe Hart missed the final due to a silly, avoidable booking only adds to the argument of immaturity.</p>
<p>In defense, Germany looked stellar all tournament. The German defense pulled shutouts in 4 of their 5 games in Sweden, allowing only 1 goal off a set piece in the group match against England. The fulcrum of this impregnable defense was young Schalke centerback Benedikt Howedes. Howedes got quite a bit of playing time during this past campaign due to rampant injury problems at the Veltins Arena. One of the few symbols of youth in speed in an aging Schalke defense, Howedes is now a prime candidate to replace the aging and inconsistent Christoph Metzelder as a partner for Per Mertesacker in the central defense of the senior squad.  Along with his partner Jerome Boateng of Hamburg, (though himself used to playing more on the outside at the Nordbank-Arena) proved a team capable <em>innenverteidiger</em>.</p>
<p>On the flanks of the defense Hoffenheim’s Andreas Beck and Werder Bremen’s Sebastian Boenisch (note to the English commentators from Sky sports, his name is pronounced ‘Bo-nish’ not ‘Boz-nitch’) dealt with the threats from the likes of Theo Walcott, James Milner, and Sebastian Giovinco, as well as tormented opposition defenses with their effective forward runs. Nowhere was this trend more on display than with Beck’s wonder goal against Italy in the Semi-final . This pair gained their experience and effectiveness from successful domestic campaigns at their respective clubs. Hoffenheim’s rise to competitiveness at the top of the table undoubtedly gave Beck the confidence to deal with the likes of Theo Walcott. Meanwhile, Sebastian Boenisch certainly found both the confidence and maturity to hold his own in the final from the fact that it was his third cup final in a little over a month, having previously appeared in both the finals of the UEFA Cup and DFB Pokal for club side Werder Bremen.</p>
<p>Although the confident and capable nature of the goalkeeper and defense certainly proved the foundation for German success, the cutting edge was found in the Midfield. For all intents and purposes, Horst Hrubesch was effectively playing with 5 midfielders. Anchoring the midfield was Stuttgart player, and Germany under 21 captain Sami Khedira. Khedira did an excellent job of absorbing the attacks of the opposition as well as initiating attacks from the critical role linking defense and midfield. On the right flank, Gonzalo Castro of Bayer Leverkusen showed the timing and pace to cut through opposition defenses with this slashing runs, netting goals in both games against England. The star of the German midfield in this tournament, however was Mesut Ozil.</p>
<p>Schalke fans should certainly be proud of the performances put in by Manuel Neuer and Benedikt Howedes, they should be absolutely infuriated with their club for letting a talent the likes of Mesut Ozil go to rival Werder Bremen. The young attacking midfielder came into his own this past season, albeit in the shadow of talismanic number 10 Diego.  Many were rightfully critical of Ozil when he seemed to fold under the pressure of playing without Diego during the UEFA Cup final against Shaktar Donestk, however the young number 11 from Werder Bremen has done much to put such criticisms to rest since then, scoring the winning goal in the cup final against Leverkusen (ironically, off an excellent pass from Diego), as well as being the creative spark in the German midfield during this past tournament.  By his own admission, Ozil prefers to set up his teammates rather than score himself, but the somewhat fortuitous goal against England in the final shows that Ozil is developing in this regard, as he seems to be learning the age old truth that “you gotta shoot to score.” Ozil will have a chance to prove himself capable of performing consistently at the highest level this next season for Werder Bremen with the departure of Diego to Juventus. Fans of Die Mannschaft will undoubtedly be eager to see if he continues to progress.</p>
<p>The position of striker is perhaps one place where this German team needs to improve. Ashkan Dejagah of Wolfsburg, was played out of position as a striker by manager Horst Hrubesch. While MSV Duisburg front man Sandro Wagner scored two excellent goals against England in the final, it remains to be seen whether or not he is senior team material. With the likes of Miroslav Klose aging, Lukas Poldolski’s career stagnating, and Mario Gomez still unable to find top form with the national team, the German team is still looking for a cadre of strikers for the next generation. There is certainly hope to be had in Patrick Helmes, who is himself still young. If Helmes can find his feet at the national team level, and Lukas Podolski and Mario Gomez can begin firing on all cylinders, the German national team will be well set for strikers for several years to come, and the current drought of youth team strikers can be surmounted.</p>
<p>It remains to be seen if any of the stars of the German Under 21 victory in Sweden 2009 will break into Loew’s team for South Africa 2010, it is certain that Germany will not want for quality players heading into Euro 2012 and World Cup 2014. With the likes of Metzelder, Friedrich, Frings, Ballack, and Klose all entering the final acts of their national team careers, it is a safe bet to say that the talents of Howedes, Beck, Khedira, Ozil, Marin, and Kroos will be there to fill their places. The future is bright for the German National team. A future made all the brighter by the fact that the Bundesliga provides an environment and opportunity for young, talented players to ply their trade in a top flight league that is highly competitive in regards to title-challengers.  As other leagues in Europe face identity crises or a lack of competitive youth, the Bundesliga continues to bring in larger profits by the year both on and off the field.</p>
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		<title>Product Review: Objectivo Soccer Shirts</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another Germany-Wales match, another game too close for comfort for die Nationalmannschaft. The all-time series record stands at 8 wins for Germany, 2 for Wales and 6 draws between them. I don’t know what it is with the Welsh, but they punch above their weight when playing against Ballack and co. Germany needed all my [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Another Germany-Wales match, another game too close for comfort for <em>die Nationalmannschaft</em>.  The all-time series record stands at 8 wins for Germany, 2 for Wales and 6 draws between them.  I don’t know what it is with the Welsh, but they punch above their weight when playing against Ballack and co.  Germany needed all my support today, no doubt.  But how best to show it?</p>
<p>That’s the vexing question for the fan of any team, club or country, that plays during midweek.  While the unobtrusive scarf is the safest and usually stylish bet it’s not quite cold enough yet for that option.  In the limited world of soccer clothing that really only leaves the jersey or kit.   For me that means my trusty Philipp Lahm #16 from the ’06 World Cup.  Unfortunately, while my work’s dress code is fairly liberal they still frown on wearing a jersey in the office (whether that’s a company-wide anti-jersey or anti-Lahm policy was never made clear).</p>
<p>Thankfully, I found a happy medium in the form of an <a href="http://www.soccerpro.com/Objectivo-German-Eagle-T-Shirt-p7219/" title="Objectivo Germany Eagle Shirt" target="_blank">Objectivo Germany-themed shirt</a> from <a href="http://www.soccerpro.com" title="Soccerpro" target="_blank">Soccerpro</a>.    This vintage-style shirt features a large, faded black and red eagle styled after the country’s coat of arms.   Unlike a shirt sporting a flag or Germany/Deutschland in script the understated design works in almost any situation. The shirt is light and breathable because it’s made from 100% cotton.   Those are the pluses.  One thing to note, however, is that while the neck and chest measurements are normal it seems as though the shirt’s extra long, comparable to at least a size larger than what you’d expect.  That’s great if you’re tall (like me) and somewhat unfortunate if you’re not (like, well, Philipp Lahm).</p>
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<p>Those who aren’t familiar with the German eagle will still appreciate the look and their comments are the perfect opportunity to tell them of your passionate support.  Personally, I wore it underneath a grey herringbone sports coat with jeans and couldn’t have felt or looked better.  Oh, and don’t worry, Soccerpro has plenty of <a href="http://www.soccerpro.com/Soccer-Shirts-c37/" title="Other Casual Soccer Shirts from Soccerpro" target="_blank">other Objectivo and casual soccer shirts</a> (even Wales!) incase Germany isn’t for you.</p>
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		<title>Impossible is Nothing: Adidas’ Video for Kahn’s Farewell</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you may know former longtime Germany and Bayern no. 1 Oliver Kahn had his testimonial exactly a week ago in Munich. The match, between Bayern and Germany, ended 1–1, but the score was less important than the man honored that night. His accomplishments are legion and well-known, including, perhaps most impressively, being the only [...]]]></description>
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<p>As you may know former longtime Germany and Bayern no. 1 Oliver Kahn had his testimonial exactly a week ago in Munich.  The match, between Bayern and Germany, ended 1–1, but the score was less important than the man honored that night.   His accomplishments are legion and well-known, including, perhaps most impressively, being the only goalkeeper to win the FIFA World Cup Golden Ball.</p>
<p>To commemorate his career Adidas released this video to coincide with that match.  It is featured as part of its “Impossible is Nothing” series , but is produced in a much more serious tone (in keeping with Kahn’s character) than other “Impossible is Nothing” commercials.  Nothing particularly new or shocking is revealed, it’s just a well-made tribute to one of the all-time greats.</p>
<p align="left">[display_podcast]</p>
<p>For those of you not conversant in German (I imagine that’s why you’re here in the first place and not reading some fine piece of excellent sports journalism <em>auf deutsch</em>) I’ve provided a little transcript to go along with the video.  So, in the words of the man himself:</p>
<blockquote><p>I didn’t actually approach the ball the first time with my feet, but instead I picked it up right away.  Yeah, something could come of me and the ball.  Talent is a gift you’re given in life, but it’s useless if you’re not willing, in spite of everything, to work hard.</p>
<p>[Milan on May 23, 2001, the Champions League final.  A penalty shootout is needed to settle the 1–1 stalemate.  Amedeo Carboni, Valencia’s Italian left fullback, has the opportunity to put Valencia ahead 3–2…]</p>
<p>Kaaaahn!  It’s not in!  Unbelievable!</p>
<p>Becoming the national team goalkeeper was a marathon task for me.  I only became the regular keeper in goal for the German national team at age 28 and by then others already quit playing soccer.  I’ve always needed a long, long time in order to reach my goals.  Success is what’s important to me.  And for me that counts even more than, and I’ll say this in quotes, to be “sympathetic” or “immortal” or to be “the tragic hero”.</p>
<p>It was a long, long path and I always needed lots of perseverance.  But that’s just how we are.  Being a goalkeeper naturally also implies a bit of craziness.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>The Set: Seven Reasons the Bundesliga Is Better Than the EPL</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Double Pivot</dc:creator>
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<p>1. <strong>Parity</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Okay, let’s not kid ourselves.<span>  </span>Not any team can win the Bundesliga.<span>  </span>But since the inception of the EPL in 1991, four teams have won the title: United, Blackburn, <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chelsea</st1:place></st1:city> and Arsenal, but United has won 11 of those titles.<span>  </span>In that same span, five teams have won the title in <st1:country-region w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region>: <st1:city w:st="on">Kaiserslautern</st1:city>, BVB, Bayern, Werder and <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Stuttgart</st1:place></st1:city>.<span>   </span>This may not seem huge, but it is if you look more closely.<span>  </span>If you look at contested title races (one’s that have gone to the final weeks), Newcastle’s epic collapse in 1996 and Blackburn’s purchase of the title in 1995 have been the only times that Arsenal, Chelsea or United were not involved in the title race.<span>  </span>Even <st1:place w:st="on">Liverpool</st1:place> has never come close.<span>   </span>In the Bundesliga, aside from the winners, Schalke has lost the title twice and Bayer Leverkusen thrice (once tied on points with Bayern).<span>  </span>Even Eintracht Frankfurt has been within six points of the title (back in 1992). <span> </span><span> </span>And never forget that <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kaiserslautern</st1:place></st1:city> won their one title in this era the year they were promoted from Zweite.<span>   </span>Anyone think <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Hull</st1:place></st1:city> has a chance of doing that?<span>  </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The big four is truly the big four in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>They have only been piped for a slot in the group stages of the UCL by Leeds and <st1:city w:st="on">Newcastle</st1:city> since United’s Treble saw <st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region> pass <st1:country-region w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region> in coefficient and get four slots compared to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region></st1:place>’s 3.<span>  </span>During that same time, Germany has sent Hertha, 1860, Bayer Leverkusen, Bayern Munich, Werder Bremen, Schalke, Stuttgart, HSV and BVB to the group stages.<span>  </span>All this was accomplished with one less spot.<span>  </span>And unlike <st1:place w:st="on">Leeds</st1:place>, none of those teams were ruined by the efforts to get there.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In addition, while Bayern is the most successful and richest club in Germany, Schalke, Werder Bremen, Wolfsburg, BVB, Stuttgart, Leverkusen and HSV are quite capable of winning the title this year (some more so than others).<span>  </span>Meanwhile apart from <st1:city w:st="on">Cottbus</st1:city>, <st1:city w:st="on">Bielefeld</st1:city> and <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bochum</st1:place></st1:city>, every team can confidently hope for a run into European.<span>  </span><span> </span>In the EPL, there are only two possible champions.<span>   </span>While other than the big five, only Everton, Tottenham and Villa can hope to squeeze into one of the extra slots.<span>  </span>For the rest, the only hope of <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place> is to get to the finals of the FA Cup and lose to a big four club.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. <strong>Support</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe you saw Tottenham’s win over Arsenal last year in the Carling Cup and could hear the power of the chant that was repeated over and over, “Que Sera Sera, Whatever Will Be, Will Be.<span>  </span>We’re going to Wem-be-ley”.<span>  </span>It was as breathtaking as the game. <span> </span>The EPL can have amazing crowds, but it can have rather dull ones too.<span>  </span>Arsenal isn’t called the Library for nothing.<span>  </span><st1:place w:st="on">Wigan</st1:place> is a rugby town.<span>  </span>Roy Keane’s comments about the Prawn Sandwich brigade at Old Trafford were a damning statement on gentrification in the game as it becomes the vice of the old and wealthy in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region></st1:place>.<span>  </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region>, where stadiums are significantly bigger and seats cheaper, the young and the avid attend virtually every team’s games.<span>   </span>The same power I remember from that Carling Cup song could be heard at <st1:city w:st="on">Wolfsburg</st1:city> in a game against <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Stuttgart</st1:place></st1:city> last year in a midtable/ midseason clash.<span>   </span>And <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wolfsburg</st1:place></st1:city>’s stadium is small and one of the few stadiums that hosts empty seats.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The crowds are amazing.<span>  </span>They are spectacle unto themselves.<span>  </span>Think about a Bombanero in <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Buenos   Aires</st1:place></st1:city> without the fear of losing your life.<span>  </span>And this can be had at many of the average teams in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region>.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Last year 1860 <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Munich</st1:place></st1:city> averaged 44,000 people for Zweite games.<span>  </span>That would have made them the third highest attended team in <st1:country-region w:st="on">Spain</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Italy</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>They would be the second highest attended team in <st1:country-region w:st="on">France</st1:country-region> and fourth in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>   </span>Meanwhile they were 8<sup>th</sup> in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>And <st1:place w:st="on">Köln</st1:place> and Borussia Möchengladbach both had 40K+ average attendances as well in the Zweite.<span>  </span>Just for the record, Borussia Dortmund virtually equaled both United and Real in attendance with a putrid side last campaign.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They are loud, they are relentless and they never stop waving the flags or singing the songs.<span>   </span>And is there any site more beautiful than the post game acknowledgments between the players and the fans?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. <strong>Fan Power</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for supporting the team, now shut up and give us your money.<span>  </span>Increasingly that has become the feeling of the supporters of clubs in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region></st1:place>.<span>   </span>And while some supporters are finding solace in the lower leagues, for example through F.C. United, many English fans are now seeking it in <a href="http://soccer.fanhouse.com/2008/07/09/english-fans-abandoning-premier-league-for-bundesliga/">Germany.</a><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"></st1:place></st1:country-region></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Because in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region>, fans still have a say due to ownership rules and tradition.<span>   </span>Fans have forced issues such as standing terraces, which are one of the reasons for the wonderful crowds and atmosphere, reasonable seating prices, use of flags and banners and the continued presence of Sportschau, think Match of the Day, on free television. You can get seats for as little €5, even at the Allianz.<span>  </span>At Old Trafford, that money wouldn’t even get you their infamous prawn sandwiches.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The fans aren’t a profitable inconvenience in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region>; they are part of the makeup of the league.<span>  </span>And their tireless work has led to many of the wonderful aspects of the league that make it the most compelling league in the world.<span>   </span></p>
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<p>But if you think they are sitting on their haunches, you need only look back to an <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/04/07/are_german_fans_really_turning.html">article by Raphael Honigstein</a><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>  <w:WordDocument>   <w:View>Normal</w:View>   <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom>   <w:PunctuationKerning/>   <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/>   <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>   <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent>   <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>   <w:Compatibility>    <w:BreakWrappedTables/>    <w:SnapToGridInCell/>    <w:WrapTextWithPunct/>    <w:UseAsianBreakRules/>    <w:DontGrowAutofit/>   </w:Compatibility>   <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel>  </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>  <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156">  </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--> last year<!--[if gte mso 10]></p>
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<p> <![endif]--><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span>, which shows how the Ultras still feel the league is too commercialized.<span>  </span>The Ultras of Italy throw bricks.<span>  </span>The Ultras of Spain make monkey noises.<span>  </span>The Ultras of England can’t afford to go and have to meet up in dark alleys for a punch up.<span>  </span>The Ultras of Germany* actually have a political statement.<span>  </span></p>
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<p style="font-style: italic" class="MsoNormal">*This is not to suggest that there isn’t a minority of these Ultras in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region> who aren’t capable of the same.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">4. <strong>50+1</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A term used to refer to rules regulating that no individual can own more than 49% of a club.<span>  </span>The remainder has to be owned by the Verein, which is the original sporting club, which derives its purpose and finances through its members, which spawned the football team.<span>  </span>Think of your local YMCA owning the Boston Red Sox.<span>  </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With this rule, there are not any worries about oil tyrants and human rights abusers taking over clubs for a quick return on investment.<span>   </span>There are concerns that these rules might be relaxed in the future, but there is doubt that fans, who have a say through their memberships in the Vereins, will allow for this, even at the expense of watching English clubs dominate Champions League.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But that’s not to say that teams can’t be bankrolled.<span>  </span>Bayer <st1:city w:st="on">Leverkusen</st1:city> has the backing of the Bayer Group pharmaceutical giant, <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wolfsburg</st1:place></st1:city> has Volkswagon and Hoffenheim has Deitmar Hopp of SAP.<span>  </span>There could be an increase in the number of rich owners who have a 49% stake, which would allow <st1:country-region w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region> to still compete in Europe without giving its league to bandits, as has happened in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region></st1:place>.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">5. <strong>All Teams Solvent</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What is the most profitable league in <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place>?<span>  </span>Wrong! (I know you said the EPL).<span>   </span>You’re not even close.<span>   </span>While revenue is greater in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region> (by almost double), the Bundesliga profited €250 million last year, over €100 million more than the EPL.<span>  </span>In the meantime, the Bundesliga is now 2<sup>nd</sup> in revenue to <st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region>, outclassing both <st1:country-region w:st="on">Italy</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Spain</st1:place></st1:country-region> in revenue and profit.<span>   </span>The major factor in this is player costs.<span>  </span>While all the talk in <st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region> revolves around player power and transfer deals, the Bundesliga keeps player costs to 45% of revenue (compared to 66% in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region>).<span>  </span>Meanwhile, television money continues to increase, shirt sponsorship is greater than <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region> and bigger stadiums all help to keep teams revenue rich.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pick a team! Any team!<span>  </span>Tomorrow they will still be solvent.<span>   </span>Yes, Borussia Dortmund recently had a financial crisis, but it was a crisis.<span>  </span>It was not administration.<span>   </span>The number of teams that would be denied a license under <st1:country-region w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region>’s Lizenzierungsordnung, which regulates finances, would be staggering, as it is much stricter than in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region></st1:place>.<span>  </span>Each March clubs are required to put a financial plan to the league to show their liquidity. They have to budget based on that submission.<span>  </span>In fact, it was BVB’s missing out of the group stages of the UCL in 2003, which they had budgeted upon that caused much of their financial worries recently.<span>  </span>Hopefully Schalke had contingency plans for their failure this year. <span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The last time a team was denied a license in <st1:country-region w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region> was 1982 to 1860 <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Munich</st1:city></st1:place>.<span>  </span>Twelve teams have been near or in administration in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region> over the past 2 years.<span>   </span>And <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chelsea</st1:place></st1:city> have recorded losses of £140.<span>  </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">6. <strong>Youth Development and Scouting</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Want to see who the stars of Euro 2012 or WC 2014 will be.  A good place to start is the Bundesliga.   <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Italy</st1:place></st1:country-region> is housing fewer and fewer young stars, especially ones that aren’t Italian.   <span style="cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; background-attachment: scroll" id="lw_1220972355_0"><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><span class="yshortcuts">Spain</span></st1:place></st1:country-region></span> is loaded but is mostly the domain of the Spanish and Argentine.   <span style="cursor: pointer" id="lw_1220972355_1"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on"><span class="yshortcuts">England</span></st1:country-region></st1:place></span> puts an overvaluation on youth but rarely produces the young stars.<span>  </span>The exception is Arsenal, where Arsene Wenger has made a cottage industry of buying young kids from outside of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region></st1:place> and developing them. <span> </span><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region> may buy talented teenagers, but these players were almost always developed elsewhere.<span>  </span><span> </span>In fact, even with English talent, rarely does the EPL develop it, other than <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Manchester</st1:placename>  <st1:placetype w:st="on">City</st1:placetype></st1:place> and West Ham.<span>  </span>The lower leagues develop most English talent.<span>  </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While that may change is FIFA is able to implement the proposed 6+5 rule, the fact is that money has allowed <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region> to give up on the academic system. <span> </span>Bayern Munich is as big as any of the clubs in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region></st1:place>. <span> </span>Their squad includes Lahm, Ottl, Rensing and Schweinsteiger, who they developed from their youth system.<span>  </span>Compare that with Manchester United, who haven’t developed a player of note on their own squad since the golden generation.<span>  </span>Any kid with a modicum of talent in their youth system is bound for <st1:country-region w:st="on">Belgium</st1:country-region> or <st1:place w:st="on">Sunderland</st1:place>.<span>   </span>It begs the question as to why they even incur the expense.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s the Bundesliga that houses most of the young international talent in the world.  The fact is that <st1:country-region w:st="on">Spain</st1:country-region> has limits on foreigners and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region> has work permit regulations.   Meanwhile <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region> has few restrictions other than a player must learn German. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is why every team at <span style="cursor: pointer" id="lw_1220972355_4"><span class="yshortcuts">Euro 2008</span></span>, except for <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Spain</st1:place></st1:country-region>, had a representative in the Bundesliga.  And this was done without a detriment to the German national team, which is exactly the opposite effect that a slew of internationals are having in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region></st1:place>.  And the league also had the most players at this year’s tournament.   Meanwhile, they were the hardest hit by the Olympics, where 16 of the league’s players, most starters for their club, were in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Beijing</st1:city></st1:place> while the German team wasn’t. <span> </span><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The stars of the future play in the Bundesliga: Kroos, Adler, Marin, Renato Augusto, Fenin, Breno, Thiago Neves, Alex Silva, Arturo Vidal, Said Huseinovic, Neven Subotic, Sosa, Demba Ba, Kuba, Nuri Sahin, Rakatic, etc.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">7. <strong>Tactics</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">How many true #10’s are there in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region>?<span>   </span>Joe Cole who will never be allowed to play the role and Elano at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Manchester</st1:placename>  <st1:placetype w:st="on">City</st1:placetype></st1:place>.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Werder has Diego, Bayern has Ribery, BVB has Hajnal, Hannover has Bruggink and the league lost two in <st1:city w:st="on">Wolfsburg</st1:city>’s Marcelinho and <st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Hamburg</st1:place></st1:state>’s van der Vaart recently.<span>   </span>It is a very common position that is the pinnacle of technical football; yet, it doesn’t exist in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region>, because it slows the game down.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nonetheless, the Bundesliga is no slower than the EPL.<span>   </span>In fact if you compare distance covered, the Bundesliga and the EPL are slightly behind <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region> as players cover 10km per game.<span>  </span>While much more time is spent sprinting in the EPL (210m vs 169m), when it comes to high intensity runs the EPL is barely above the Bundesliga with each player running 241m at high intensity compared with 224m. But for the slight advantage they have in sprinting, English teams don’t even complete 60% of their passes, while the Bundesliga compares with La Liga at 63.5% completion rate.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Another telling problem for <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region></st1:place> is that there are 50 more challenges per game, which is due to the defensive nature of the league.<span>  </span>Even worse is that the EPL has 10 more air challenges per game, proving that “Rt. 1” football is far from dead.<span>  </span>Meanwhile <st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region> has the lowest number of touches per game and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region> the most.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And all of that leads to the most telling factor: For <a href="http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/teams/in-numbers-europes-five-big-leagues-at-the-halfway-point.html">19 straight years</a>, the Bundesliga has had the most goals per game of any of the five biggest leagues in <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place> (2.81 last year). <span>  </span><st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region>, who claims that <st1:country-region w:st="on">Italy</st1:country-region> is the land of defensive football, has managed to average more goals than <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Italy</st1:place></st1:country-region> just three times this decade.<span>  </span>The last time <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region> even came close to the Bundesliga was 1999–2000 when they scored 2.78 vs 2.80 gpg.<span>  </span>Most years, the most “exciting” league in the world is statistically more like Ligue 1, which is desperately trying to get its clubs to play offense.<span>  </span>It has many less shots on goals, significantly less goals, and many more challenges.<span>   </span>In effect, take an Englishman’s worst stereotype of Italian football and it describes his league perfectly.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region> on the other hand, seems to be the middle ground between the highly technical Spanish and Italian leagues and the fast-paced, physical English and French leagues.<span>  </span>And that seems to me to be the perfect place to be in a tactical sense.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new Bundesliga season is just days away, so Bundesliga Talk writers Mark Moll and Double Pivot decided to interview one of the preeminent writers and authors on the topic of German soccer, Raphael Honigstein. Many readers may know Honigstein best from his appearances on the Football Weekly Podcast by The Guardian. Here’s the transcript [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><img src="http://www.exslt.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/raphael-honigstein.jpg" alt="raphael honigstein Interview With Raphael Honigstein" align="right" hspace="15" vspace="15" title="Interview With Raphael Honigstein" />The new Bundesliga season is just days away, so Bundesliga Talk writers Mark Moll and Double Pivot decided to interview one of the preeminent writers and authors on the topic of German soccer, Raphael Honigstein.</p>
<p>Many readers may know Honigstein best from his appearances on the <em>Football Weekly</em> Podcast by The Guardian. Here’s the transcript of the interview. Enjoy.</p>
<p><strong>The Gaffer: What goals do you have with Footbo.com?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Raphael Honigstein (RH): </strong>We’d like to be the natural destination site for people who love football and want to discuss/enjoy/experience it with others online. You’ll see big new features in the next month or so that will radically expand our scope. Social networking is only the start for us.</p>
<p><strong>Mark Moll (MM): Growing up in Munich, did you ever appear for a local youth side?</strong></p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> My football education was somewhat unusual because I never liked the idea of organised sport as a kid. My parents didn’t push me towards that direction either, so instead of joining a club, we literally played football seven days a week with friends in parks and on school pitches — until the janitor kicked us out. We also formed a team that took part in Munich’s biggest amateur tournament every year. I only played my first game for a proper club when I was 18, in Munich’s lowest league (C-Klasse). A year later, I moved to London where I played for UCL (University College London) but I think it’s fair to say I found their interpretation of the football rules a little disturbing. In 90 minutes, there’d be perhaps one free-kick. I’m not exaggerating. After a few more years in a London Sunday league and three ACL surgeries later, I called it a day in 2002.</p>
<p><strong>MM: You’ve been living in London now for 15 years, how did you get your start covering football?</strong></p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> I started writing music features for Süddeutsche Zeitung’s youth supplement while at college. When my predecessor, the legendary Ronald Reng, decided to move to Barcelona in 2002, I inherited his job.</p>
<p><strong>MM: Having written for English, German, and American audiences do find that you write in a distinct style for each?</strong></p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> It’s not so much a case of different audiences in different countries — more important is the type of publication. In a broadsheet, you have to explain things a bit more because you can’t be sure about the detailed knowledge of the reader. The opposite is true for football or sports magazines, where you can concentrate more on the details. And writing for the Guardian online is obviously a writer’s dream assignment — there are no rules, apart from filing on time. That’s the most difficult part of it.</p>
<p><strong>MM: If the Premiership is noted for its tough, uptempo play and La Liga for its technical virtuosity on display, how would you characterize the Bundesliga?</strong></p>
<p><strong>RH: </strong>I think the Bundesliga has traditionally tried to blend the controlled aggression and physical side of the English game with good technique. We’ve also had good input tactical input from Eastern European coaches in the 60s and 70s.<br />
It’s an interesting time now. After years of neglect, most teams are waking up to a more scientific approach when it comes to fitness and tactics. The stadiums are always full and cheap prices have insured that the core audience of young males hasn’t been alienated. I think the league is well poised to challenge La Liga and Serie A for second spot in the long term.</p>
<p><strong>Double Pivot (DP):</strong> <strong>Last year, after a seemingly very successful Ligapokal, there was talk of expanding the pre-season tournament to as many as 32 teams.  Yet this year, we find it canceled.  What is the situation with that tournament, and how do you see it evolving in the coming years?</strong></p>
<p><strong>RH: </strong>Due to the Euros and the late return of the German internationals, they simply couldn’t find suitable dates this season. Its future is under review right now. There has been talk about staging it abroad, but I don’t see that happening in the coming years.</p>
<p><strong>DP: Felix Magath has really turned around Wolfsburg and seems poised for a very successful campaign.  If he does have success, could you see the Bundesliga moving from trainers to English style managers?</strong></p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> It’s possible, but most clubs are naturally reluctant to give too much power to a single individual. I think it’s more likely that the continental model — coach + sporting director — will make headway in England rather than the other way round. A few PL clubs are already run that way because they’ve found that the task is too big for one individual. Even Ferguson or Wenger delegate a lot of work.</p>
<p>The continental model is also better at avoiding George Graham-type situations of “conflict of interest” when it comes to signing players.</p>
<p><strong>DP: I would love to get your opinion on the capabilities and weaknesses of Germany’s bumper crop of young keepers: Rene Adler, Manuel Neuer and Michael Rensing.  And when do you think Low will give these kids the chance they deserve?</strong></p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> Adler is the best by far. He doesn’t have any obvious weaknesses. He’ll be a very serious contender for the World Cup, along with Hildebrand and Enke.  I wouldn’t be surprised if Bayern had already secretly talked to him. I don’t think they’re really sold on Rensing, who is good but not outstanding in my view. He doesn’t dominate the box enough, lacks presence and is suspect when it comes to long-range shots. He’ll be given six months to prove himself. Neuer, on his day, is an incredible shot-stopper, with good instincts. But he seems to suffer from nerves and still makes too many mistakes.</p>
<p><strong>DP: The well has dried up as far as Europe is concerned with Bundesliga sides.  What do you think needs to happen for Germany to start catching up with the big three leagues in UEFA/UCL?</strong></p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> In the Champions League, it will be a while before German clubs can compete on equal terms. The financial power of the big four in England, the top two in Spain and the top three in Italy is just too big. Bayern can and should make some sort of an impact, but for a more sustained attack, we simply need more TV money or oligarchs. In a way, the Bundesliga has also been a victim of its competitiveness: the top five, with the exception of Bayern, are very fluid, and without regular CL money, clubs like Hamburg or Stuttgart find it hard to sustain the challenge in Europe.</p>
<p>As for the UEFA Cup, I think there’s actually a  good chance a German team will win it this season. Results notwithstanding, Bayern and Werder were the best teams in the competition last year, and  decent results over-all have seen us over-take France in the UEFA rankings. Significantly, the Bundesliga clubs also got better results collectively than Italian teams  last season. That hasn’t happened before in the last ten years. Similar results this season would put us on course to wrestle third spot from Italy in the UEFA rankings in two years time.</p>
<p>Visit <a href="http://footbo.com/Users/RaphaelHonigstein" target="_blank">Raphael Honigstein’s page</a> at Footbo.com.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fred Rutten isn’t the only new Dutch manager in the Bundesliga, as ex-Tottenham Martin Jol took over the reigns of Hamburg earlier this month. It’s been nearly 30 years since Jol’s last appearance in Germany. He made 9 appearances for Bayern Munich as a midfielder in 1978/79 before returning to the Netherlands the next season. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.bundesligatalk.com/the-new-gaffer-introducing-jol-at-hamburg/40/martin-jol/" rel="attachment wp-att-41" title="Martin Jol"><img src="http://cdn.bundesligatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hsv.jpg" alt="Martin Jol" align="right" height="339" hspace="15" vspace="15" width="300" title="The New Gaffer: Introducing Jol at Hamburg" /></a>Fred Rutten isn’t the only new Dutch manager in the Bundesliga, as  ex-Tottenham Martin Jol took over the reigns of Hamburg earlier this month.  It’s been nearly 30 years since Jol’s last appearance in Germany.  He made 9 appearances for Bayern Munich as a midfielder in 1978/79 before returning to the Netherlands the next season.  His managerial journey has now mirrored his playing career, rotating among the northwestern European triangle of the Netherlands, England and Germany.  This time around he hopes to spend more than a year in the Bundesliga.</p>
<p>Jol will be Hamburg’s 26th gaffer in the past 45 years.  While this seems like a lot it’s actually the norm for the league (as next week’s entry on Bruno Labbadia will detail).  The only manager to last longer than 4 years at Hamburg?  Ernst Happel. Yes,  he of Ernst-Happel-Stadion fame (the stadium was named for the two time European Cup winner and not vice versa, in case you were wondering).  While fans would love it if Jol could emulate Happel’s European triumphs, they’d be satisfied with replicating his domestic success.  Coincidentally both Happel and Jol began their managerial careers at ADO Den Haag.  Anyway, it’s been 25 years since he Happel brought home the team’s last championship.   Since then they’ve been a steady, if not spectacular, club:</p>
<p><font color="#000000"> </font><a href="http://www.bundesligatalk.com/the-new-gaffer-introducing-jol-at-hamburg/40/hamburg-position/" rel="attachment wp-att-46" title="Hamburg Position"><img src="http://cdn.bundesligatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hsv-tabellenpositionen.jpg" alt="Hamburg Position" align="middle" height="200" hspace="15" vspace="15" width="480" title="The New Gaffer: Introducing Jol at Hamburg" /></a></p>
<p>They own the unique distinction of being the only remaining original Bundesliga side never to have been relegated.  To continue staying afloat in the Bundesliga and hopefully challenge for silverware Hamburg must first and foremost continue developing their Dutch pipeline.</p>
<p>Currently Hamburg employ four Dutch players in their first team: Joris Mathijsen, Nigel de Jong, Romeo Castelen, and captain Rafael van der Vaart.  Chelsea-flop Khalid Boulahrouz is also a recent member of this group.  Together they comprise the second-largest national contingent in the squad and arguably its most talented.  Hamburg has developed in somewhat of a Dutch Portugal.  Portugal, for obvious reasons, is the destination of choice for young Brazilian talent making their initial move to Europe.  Those who display enough promise are then snapped up by larger clubs.  A crude analogy, to be sure, but it effectively describes the situation.  Like the Bundesliga at large, Hamburg in particular has evolved into a showroom for foreign talent before it moves on to more lucrative English or Mediterranean shores.</p>
<p>The most obvious example of this will soon be Rafael van der Vaart, who has made his feelings quite clear about leaving Hamburg over the past year.  For a time the rumor was that he’d end up at the Mestalla with Valencia.  Now the bids have centered around the Spanish capital, either as part of Atletico’s summer signing spree or as Real’s ersatz Ronaldo.  Although his contract runs through the 2009–2010 season it is clear that he is on his way out and almost certainly to the land of his mother’s birth.  Hamburg would be well-advised to sell soon rather than risk losing a hefty (approximately 15 million Euro) transfer fee thanks to the <a href="http://eur-lex.europa.eu/smartapi/cgi/sga_doc?smartapi!celexplus!prod!CELEXnumdoc&amp;lg=en&amp;numdoc=61993J0415" title="Bosman Ruling Text" target="_blank">Bosman ruling</a>.</p>
<p>The best way to spend the van der Vaart money would be exactly how the club has in the past, on young players.  While no one has or will likely ever confuse Hamburg for Arsenal, the club have made the decision to pursue mostly young professionals (three of the four Dutch players above are 25 or younger, for instance).  It seems unlikely that Jol will alter this policy, although were he to try he’d find himself dealing with a much stingier board than Tottenham’s (and he won’t have a repeat of his run-in with Spurs’ director of football Damien Comolli).</p>
<p>Is Jol the man to have Hamburg fans partying like it’s 1983? Is there a limit to how many Dutch players German fans can stomach in the squad?  Is it only a matter of time before Hamburg, taking their cue from North London, replace Jol with Sevilla’s current coach, Manolo Jimenez?</p>
<p><strong>Next Week</strong>: Bruno Labbadia at Bayer Leverkusen</p>
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