Ruhrpott Derby Observations

by Joe Ashmore on February 23, 2009 · 5 comments

Gelbe Wand in Schalker hands (or not?)

Gelbe Wand in Schalker hands (or not?)

Have you ever won­dered what makes a true Derby and how the emo­tions of the Fans are affected by the spec­ta­cle? After this weekend’s Ruhrpott Derby between Schalke 04 and Borus­sia Dort­mund (1:1) some of the blogs have inter­est­ing takes from both sides. I am not going into the specifics of the game as there are plenty of avail­able match reports but have cho­sen to trans­late a few excerpts about one par­tic­u­lar piece of Tifo that has been at the cen­ter of atten­tion between the two sides.

Schalke Fan:
After all the pre game Music, the Intro­duc­tions and Adver­tise­ments the game is finally about to begin. Every­one starts wav­ing their Scarves as the Whis­tle blows and we are under­way. In the Nord­kurve the first Ban­ner makes an appear­ance “Wir tun alles — ihr nichts…!” (We do every­thing – you do noth­ing!), maybe a bit early is my feel­ing. As I look closer at the Blue Wall I see to my sur­prise sev­eral giant yel­low pieces, and they truly look like rem­nants of the famed “Gel­ben Wand“ (“Yel­low Wall”), the one that dis­ap­peared one night about two years ago from its loca­tion 80 Meters above the pitch of the West­falen­sta­dion. As I look at the Vis­i­tors sec­tion I rec­og­nize they are beside them­selves and not a very happy bunch, and the Schalke Fans are singing some­thing about “Gelbe Wand in Schalker Hand” (“Yel­low Wall in Schalke Hands”) and are cel­e­brat­ing them­selves and their so called Heroic Deed. I won­der are those yel­low pieces “real”?* When yel­low player ban­ners have been imi­tated even I have to won­der. But UGE (Ultras Gelsenkirchen) would not embar­rass us by mak­ing this them­selves, I can’t really imag­ine it.
* It seems that appar­ently there was an inci­dent in which Schalke Fans made Dort­mund Player Ban­ners and held them up in the Schalke Sec­tion so as to appear they were cap­tured from the oppo­si­tion.
In a few sec­onds the entire Sta­dium is on its feet and singing “Die gelbe Wand, die gelbe Wand, die gelbe Wand ist wieder daaaaa!” (“The yel­low wall, the yel­low wall, the yel­low wall is back again!”). This results in severely test­ing the sta­bil­ity of the Plex­i­glas enclo­sures around the vis­i­tors sec­tion. Before the match the songs were less about “Sup­port” and more “Anti Sup­port” already because both Fan Groups wor­ried more about each other than with their own team and this inci­dent actu­ally height­ens that feel­ing. At least until a few min­utes into the game when the action on the field causes reac­tions to the actual match……….

Dort­mund Fan:
The whis­tle had barely blown when the Blue Sup­port­ers already got our atten­tion. It seems that even though the roof of the arena was closed that some of them were a bit cold and needed to wrap them­selves up in a warm yel­low blan­ket. Seems the addi­tional warmth had them feel­ing bet­ter as we could see by their singing and danc­ing. Since the noble yel­low mate­r­ial was appar­ently the one lov­ingly man­u­fac­tured in Dort­mund until it changed hands through a crim­i­nal action all of us were a bit enraged. The jour­ney from Dort­mund to the lit­tle Fish­ing Vil­lage already had its share of delays and trou­bles, this dis­play finally tor­pe­doed the remain­ing sen­ti­ments of those try­ing to calm the feel­ings before the derby. In this sit­u­a­tion you have to ask your­self why there are talks between del­e­ga­tions of both teams and the police before the Derby. The promises of FC Per­jury ahead of the game to not par­tic­i­pate in any kind of provo­ca­tions where bro­ken again. They have had a ban­ner over the Nord­kurve since the last derby that made ref­er­ence to our miss­ing ban­ner: “Einst war ich schwatzgelb und hing im Süden” (“I used to be yel­low and black and hang in the South”). If that is their idea of de esca­la­tion then that is why we hope this Club does not sur­vive the year 2010. Prob­a­bly a ques­tion best posed to the Russ­ian. (Ref­er­ence to the Schalke Spon­sor Gazprom)

So there you have it, dif­fer­ent views on activ­i­ties sur­round­ing a true Derby match. Thanks to the blog­gers from auswaertssieg (Schalke) and schwatzgelb (Dort­mund) for shar­ing your expe­ri­ences. Right or wrong, it is part of what makes the atmos­phere of a rivalry match so heated and dif­fer­ent from what we are used to in the United States. Your thoughts?

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5 comments… read them below or add one

1 diana February 23, 2009 at 12:01 pm

I cannot stop giggling over the little fishing village reference! But really, as a non-German (I come from Singapore), whatever I had read about the passion of the derby…these two blog excerpts does put things into perspective.

For me, coming from a country where we always like to get one over our neighbour up north (Malaysia), I am always fascinated reading about football rivalries from any part of the world.

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2 Juliet February 23, 2009 at 2:18 pm

Despite growing up in the American south, which is plenty familiar with spirited American college football rivalries, I’d say it sounds like the Ruhr rivalry would give any of them a fierce run for their money. Thanks for providing this kind of insight into the Bundesliga and German culture!

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3 Joe Ashmore February 23, 2009 at 2:50 pm

Thanks for the kind comments and I am glad that you all like these type of entries. College Football rivalries are probably in many ways the closest thing to some of the rivalries and traditions that are found in European Soccer. One of the hardest things for many European Soccer Fans to understand about MLS is the distances involved and the few real Derbies (in that sense) that we have here. But the game is growing here and as I told some of my fellow supporters (I live in Houston) here is that we are able to grow a Supporters Culture and establish our own traditions.

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4 Juliet February 25, 2009 at 10:00 am

Indeed MLS is building it’s own supporters culture –just look at the heated rivalry between DCU (go team!) and the Fire.

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5 Julia August 26, 2010 at 9:44 pm

I watched the derby where the “Gelbe Wand” was in the “Nordkurve”. how the ultras come to the “Gelbe Wand” there are different stories. one says that the ultras went in white overalls to the westfalenstadion and said that they wanted to wash the “Gelbe Wand”. an other story says that they klimbed on the roff of the “südtribüne” and picketed the “Gelbe Wand” off.
i think that the yellow wall in the “Nordkurve” was the real “Gelbe Wand”.
but in the german “bundesliga” aren’t only revivals there are also friendships. for example between schalke and nürnberg. if schalke plays in nürnberg or in the near of nürnberg the fans of nürnberg go to the schalke games and support them and if nürnberg plays in schalke or in the near we support them.
and the games between schalke and dortmund are something special.

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