Quo Vadis Frankfurt?

by Joe Ashmore on March 2, 2009 · 1 comment

SGE "Fans" actions in Karlsruhe continue to be hotly debated.

SGE “Fans” actions in Karl­sruhe con­tinue to be hotly debated.

The fines have been handed out by the DFB, Ein­tra­cht Frank­furt was fined 40,000 Euros and Karl­sruher SC was fined 15,000 Euros respec­tively for not ade­quately pro­vid­ing secu­rity for the Offi­cials and the Play­ers. While both Clubs grudg­ingly accepted the ver­dicts and fines the only ones that seem to accept lit­tle respon­si­bil­ity are the “Fans” respon­si­ble for the inci­dent. A state­ment released by the Ultras Frank­furt after meet­ing with Klaus Lötzbeier from Ein­tra­cht Frank­furt seems to indi­cate that the group is blam­ing the inci­dent on not being able to per­form a pre­vi­ously requested Choreography.

Is this really what Sup­port­ers are about? In this case it seems to basi­cally come down to want­ing to get your way like a small child and if that does not hap­pen you are going to do what­ever you like and blame it on those not giv­ing in to your Child­ish behav­ior? Before you say to your­self “What does some­one in the US know about this kind of thing” let me say this: I have been involved in the Soc­cer Fan Scene since I was 8 Years old and have seen and expe­ri­enced quite a few things in that time both in Europe and more recently here in the US where the Fan Scene is slowly but steadily grow­ing. I have expe­ri­enced the age of old School Kut­ten­träger, had my share of Hooli­gan­ism and have a few scars to show for it and seen the Ultras Move­ment make its way on to the scene. I have always been fond of the Loy­alty, cre­ativ­ity and the bond that is found in the most ardent Sup­port­ers of a Club and still main­tain reg­u­lar con­tact with peo­ple that shared some of the most amaz­ing trips and expe­ri­ences so many years ago.

While the Sup­port­ers groups can be described as the heart and soul of the Club and many are will­ing to fol­low their Club to the ends of the earth to attend not only reg­u­lar sea­son and Inter­na­tional Games but also Train­ing Camps, Friend­lies, Indoor Tour­na­ments, Pub­lic Appear­ances etc. there has been a dis­turb­ing trend of some types of Fans to basi­cally attempt to black­mail “their” Club. Why is a good ques­tion, if the groups are doing what their mis­sion state­ment seems to indi­cate “Unwa­ver­ing Sup­port of your Team through thick and thin” how can inci­dents like this show sup­port of “Your” Club? Are inci­dents like this that result in fines, poten­tial loss of points, play­ing in an empty sta­dium help­ing your Club and the Play­ers achieve their goals or are they a way for your group to show­case itself and increase the groups stand­ing in the world of Sup­port­ers Groups? Many times the lat­ter unfor­tu­nately seems to be the major fac­tor that dri­ves the Groups to do things that seem to con­flict with what they say they are all about and then when the reper­cus­sions come they tend to com­pound the prob­lem by stat­ing that they will protest as they are being unfairly per­se­cuted. For an exam­ple of this see some of the excerpts trans­lated from the statement:

State­ment from the Frank­furt Ultras can be found here: http://www.uf97.de/

This Thurs­day evening our group had a meet­ing with Klaus Lötzbeier (Board Mem­ber of the Ein­tra­cht Frank­furt Fuss­ball AG). We as a group thought it to be best to wait until after this meet­ing to offer a pub­lic state­ment instead of prior to the meet­ing. Now that we had the meet­ing here is our state­ment in regards to what hap­pened at the away match in Karl­sruhe and the sanc­tions that the Ein­tra­cht Frank­furt Fuss­ball AG has brought against the active Fan scene.

In Karl­sruhe we were once again not allowed to dis­play a pre­vi­ously made and offi­cially requested Chore­og­ra­phy. (Note: They have to be coor­di­nated with and allowed by the teams) For that rea­son we decided ahead of time to not reg­u­late our Fan Scene in regards to Pyrotech­nics as we have done with our vol­un­tary non use of Pyrotech­nics since the game against Ober­hausen in 2002. With minor small excep­tions there has been noth­ing spec­tac­u­lar with Pyrotech­nics in Frank­furt since 2002, even though we have always said that we gen­er­ally are not going to dis­tance our­selves from Pyrotechnics.

The Pyrotech­nic dis­play in Karl­sruhe to start the 2nd Half, with the excep­tion of the two flares at the end that landed on the field, was absolutely in order.

Since we have been told that we can­not bring any­thing to away matches we have decided to not bring any­thing to the home match against Schalke this week­end. We will not hang ban­ners, flags or par­tic­i­pate in any chants or songs. As long as our own Club, Ein­tra­cht Frank­furt, con­tin­ues to impose these penal­ties we will not be able to sup­port the Club in the way we always have.”

Ultras Frank­furt, 26.02.2009

Now I ask you, does this sound like a group that is acknowl­edg­ing it made an error and is accept­ing respon­si­bil­ity or a group that is blam­ing every­one else for this inci­dent and wants the Club to give in to its demands?

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1 Jan March 2, 2009 at 12:27 pm

“Are incidents like this that result in fines, potential loss of points, playing in an empty stadium helping your Club and the Players achieve their goals or are they a way for your group to showcase itself and increase the groups standing in the world of Supporters Groups? ”

It may just be a by-product of the Ultras original mission statement but bragging rights and ego-boosting self-celebratory actions are certainly part of the movement. Maybe that’s also the appeal for some fans to join the movement. Being somebody somewhere instead of being nobody nowhere.

“For that reason we decided ahead of time to not regulate our Fan Scene in regards to Pyrotechnics as we have done with our voluntary non use of Pyrotechnics since the game against Oberhausen in 2002.”

That’s the best bit of the statement. Pyrotechnics aren’t allowed in stadiums, so pointing out how they are voluntarily not doing something illegal almost reads like they want an award for following the rules. :-)

Ultras are of course free to have their code and ideology. Each to his own. But the reason pyrotechnics aren’t allowed in stadiums is the simple reason, that they put they safety of the people in the stadium at risk, unless you use them in a highly controlled and safe environment. But making sure of that and organising a “pyro-show” together with the Ultras ahead of home matches will end up costing a fortune. If the Ultras can cough up the money for that, maybe they can broker a compromise with the clubs they so love and support.

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